OUT, WE’RE GOING TO CRUSH CROOKED JOE BIDEN NEXT NOVEMBER, THE 2024 ELECTION. OFFICIALLY ONE YEAR AWAY. THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN ON VIEW, THE SO-CALLED MAGA VIEW. ALL EYES ON BATTLEGROUND WISCONSIN. WHEN WE JUST GET OUT THERE OR BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE OUR AGENDA, WE GAIN SUPPORT FOR A NEW GENERATIONAL CONSERVATIVE LEADER. WE FEEL THE MOMENTUM, THE ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE RUNS THROUGH WISCONSIN. THE CANDIDATES, THE CONVENTION, THE HIGH PROFILE RACES. OUR GUEST THIS SUNDAY, DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF WISCONSIN CHAIRMAN BEN WIKLER AND REPUBLICAN PARTY OF WISCONSIN CHAIRMAN BRIAN SCHIMMING IN A RARE JOINT APPEARANCE. THEN AN UNPRECEDENTED ACCESS. WHAT IS THE FUTURE FOR FOXCONN HERE IN WISCONSIN? THE FIRST TIME TV CAMERAS ALLOWED INSIDE FOXCONN IN WISCONSIN AND YOU’LL SEE IT HERE, THIS MACHINE WILL SUB ASSEMBLE THAT PIECE. WHAT’S ACTUALLY HAPPENING INSIDE NEW TAX CREDITS ON THE LINE AND NEW INTERVIEWS WITH WHAT’S NEXT. THE UNPRECEDENTED LOOK JUST MOMENTS AWAY. THIS IS UPFRONT WITH GERRON JORDAN AND POLITICAL DIRECTOR MATT SMITH. HI, EVERYONE. THANKS FOR JOINING US. OFFICIALLY, ONE YEAR OUT ON ELECTION DAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024, AND ALL ROADS WILL LEAD THROUGH WISCONSIN. REPUBLICANS WILL OFFICIALLY NOMINATE THEIR CANDIDATE NEXT SUMMER IN MILWAUKEE DURING THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION, DEMOCRATS WILL GATHER DOWN THE ROAD IN CHICAGO AND ALL INDICATIONS, AT LEAST NOW SHOW A TRUMP BIDEN REMATCH APPEARS LIKELY IN WISCONSIN A YEAR OUT. THE REAL CLEAR POLITICS POLLING AVERAGE GIVES TRUMP A TWO POINT LEAD. MARQUETTE WILL BE OUT THIS WEDNESDAY WITH ITS LATEST POLL. BIDEN WON THE STATE IN 2020 BY FEWER THAN 21,000 VOTES. AND LET’S NOT FORGET THE CRITICAL US SENATE RACE. NO TOP TIER REPUBLICAN HAS YET TO OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCE THEIR BID AGAINST DEMOCRATIC SENATOR TAMMY BALDWIN. WHO BETTER TO LOOK AHEAD? THEN DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF WISCONSIN CHAIRMAN BEN WIKLER AND REPUBLICAN PARTY OF WISCONSIN CHAIRMAN BRIAN SCHIMMING IN THIS RARE JOINT APPEARANCE. GENTLEMEN, GOOD TO SEE YOU. AS WE SIT HERE ONE YEAR OUT. IT’S GREAT TO BE WITH YOU. YEAH, IT’S AMAZING. LET’S FIRST JUST KIND OF SET THE TABLE WITH TRUMP. BRIAN, DO YOU THINK TRUMP IS GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE COMING OUT OF MILWAUKEE? IS THERE ANY SCENARIO WHERE HE ISN’T? WELL, SURE, THERE’S SCENARIOS WHERE, YOU KNOW, OTHERS CAN BE NOMINEE, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, WISCONSIN’S PRIMARY ISN’T DOWN UNTIL INTO APRIL. WE’LL SEE IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, SOUTH CAROLINA. YOU’LL SEE OTHER STATES BEFORE THAT. SO HE’S CERTAINLY LEADING RIGHT NOW. BUT ONE THING I’VE LEARNED AFTER DECADES OF DOING THIS IS OFTENTIMES THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE LEADING THIS EARLY OUT ARE NOT THE NOMINEE. SO HE’S IN A STRONG POSITION RIGHT NOW. BUT WE’LL SEE. DO YOU WANT TRUMP TO BE THE NOMINEE? WHICHEVER REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE WINS THE PRIMARY, IT’S EITHER MAGA WARMED OVER OR MAGA 2.0. THEY’RE ALL RUNNING ON THE SAME EXTREMIST PLATFORM AND THAT, I THINK, MAKES ALL OF THEM REALLY BE SIGNIFICANTLY AT A DISADVANTAGE GOING INTO 24. LET’S TALK ABOUT HERE IN WISCONSIN. I’M CURIOUS ONE YEAR OUT, WHAT KEEPS BOTH OF YOU UP AT NIGHT WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR COUNTERPART IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY’RE DOING AND HOW THEY’RE OPERATING? BRIAN SAWYER FOR ME, I MEAN, I’VE BEEN SAYING THE WHOLE TIME, WISCONSIN IS NEXT YEAR IS NOT ONE OF 50 STATES. WE’RE ONE OF FIVE. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THE ROAD AND I THINK WE WOULD AGREE ON THIS, THE ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE RUNS THROUGH WISCONSIN. AND SO I THINK WHAT MAY KEEP BEN UP AT NIGHT IF HE DOESN’T ADMIT IT, IS THAT THE POLLING IN IN THE MOST RECENT POLLING IN ALL THE SWING STATES SHOWS TRUMP EITHER AHEAD OR TIED. AND THAT OVER 70% OF DEMOCRATS DON’T WANT JOE BIDEN TO RUN AGAIN. SO THEY HAVE AN ENTHUSIASM GAP PROBLEM. WE SEE IT ON THE MARQUETTE POLL. WE SEE IT ON THE OTHER POLLS THAT AFTER TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF SPENDING BY THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN AND JUST THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, HE’S ACTUALLY NUMERICALLY GETTING WORSE IN THE POLLING, INCLUDING HERE IN WISCONSIN. SO REPUBLICANS FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. IS THAT WHAT KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT? WELL, I LOVE REPUBLICANS FEELING LIKE THEY’VE GOT IT IN THE BAG AND TAKING IT FOR GRANTED. THAT’S I THINK IT’S GREAT NEWS TO HEAR FOR DEMOCRATS. OUR JOB IS TO ALWAYS LOSE SLEEP OVER THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE HOME OF THE NAIL BITER. WE’RE THE ONE PERCENTAGE POINT MARGIN STATE, OFTEN A FRACTION OF ONE PERCENTAGE POINT. SO THIS WEEKEND WE’RE LAUNCHING 425 DOOR TO DOOR CANVASSES ACROSS THE STATE IN 115 MUNICIPALITIES. WE’RE TALKING TO PEOPLE NOW. WE’RE FINDING FOLKS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS A CHOICE ELECTION BETWEEN EXTREMISM AND MAGA, CHAOS AND SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON, WHO WANTS TO ROLL US BACK TO THE 19TH CENTURY AND TRUMP AND ALL HE REPRESENTS OR PRESIDENT BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, TAMMY BALDWIN, DEMOCRATS WHO DELIVER FOR PEOPLE AND FIGHT FOR AMERICAN FREEDOM. WHAT IS THAT GROUND GAME GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND IS IT GOING TO DIFFER FROM WHAT WE SAW IN 2020, EVEN 2022? SO THE CORE IDEA IS THAT DEMOCRATS DON’T TAKE ANY VOTER FOR GRANTED AND THEY DON’T TAKE ANY VOTER OFF THE TABLE. WE’RE GOING TO BE ORGANIZING IN DEEP RED RURAL AREAS AND IN THE BRIGHTEST BLUE SPOTS ACROSS THE STATE, ACROSS GENERATION, GEOGRAPHY, RACE, ETHNICITY, TRIBE, EVERY WISCONSINITE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE HERE’S OUR MESSAGE. AND MOST WISCONSINITES ARE DOING BETTER FINANCIALLY NOW THAN THEY WERE FOUR YEARS AGO. UNDER TRUMP, PEOPLE’S NET WORTH HAS IMPROVED MOST GOVERNORS ACROSS THE STATE, INCLUDING GOVERNOR EVERS, ARE POPULAR. THE KEY THING WE NEED TO DO IS CUT THROUGH REPUBLIC IRON PROPAGANDA ABOUT THE NATIONAL PICTURE AND HOW PRESIDENT BIDEN’S POLICIES HAVE DELIVERED FOR FOLKS, WHILE ALSO MAKING CLEAR THAT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT YOUR OWN BODY, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS RESPECTED AND IT’S NOT OVERTURNED THROUGH A TRUMP INSURRECTION OR A ROBIN VOS IMPEACHMENT, THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY COUNT ON DEMOCRATS TO FIGHT FOR YOUR FREEDOM. AND THAT’S A MESSAGE THAT WE KNOW WINS AT THE BALLOT BOX AS IT HAS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. IT HAS BEEN OUR MESSAGE. IT WORKED IN 2020 EXCUSE ME, 2020, 2022 AND 2023. HOW IMPORTANT IS EARLY VOTING FOR REPUBLICANS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS A CHALLENGE HEADING INTO 2024? IT’S INTERESTING. I APPEARED DOZENS OF PLACES ACROSS THE STATE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND THAT’S CERTAINLY BEEN AN INTEREST OF MINE, AS YOU KNOW, GETTING EARLY VOTING. AND THE RECEPTION HAS BEEN VERY GOOD, BETTER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. ACTUALLY, THE RECEPTION HAS BEEN VERY, VERY GOOD ON EARLY VOTING. AND SO WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A MASSIVE EARLY VOTING DRIVE IN THIS STATE THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE. DO YOU NEED TO CATCH UP TO DEMOCRATS IN ORDER TO WIN? WELL, I THINK THEY’VE BEEN AHEAD OF US ON THIS ISSUE, AND I’VE SAID THAT PUBLICLY. IN FACT, THAT’S WHAT I SAY PUBLICLY WHEN I GO OUT AND TALK TO MY OWN FOLKS. BUT AS BEN SAID AT HIS CONVENTION TO THE MEDIA, THEY COULDN’T THEY COULDN’T COUNT ANYMORE IN THE FUTURE. ON HAVING AN EARLY VOTE ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS WERE GETTING IT TOGETHER. AND ON THAT ISSUE, HE’S RIGHT. IS THAT COMING? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK I HOPE EVERY DEMOCRAT LISTENED VERY CAREFULLY TO WHAT MY COUNTERPART JUST SAID. NO DEMOCRAT CAN TAKE THIS ELECTION FOR GRANTED, YOU KNOW, IN 2022, WE WON A GOVERNOR’S RACE WITH A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1962. AND IT MIGHT BE EASY FOR PEOPLE TO THINK, OH, WISCONSIN IS A BLUE STATE NOW. OUR STATE IS AS PURPLE AS MY TIE. THIS IS A STATE WHERE YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR EVERY VOTE AND WHAT WE’VE SEEN OVER AND OVER IS THAT PEOPLE ULTIMATELY MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT’S GOING TO AFFECT THEM IN THEIR LIVES. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONVENTION, THE 2024 CONVENTION IN MILWAUKEE. YOU’RE HELPING TO PLAN THAT CONVENTION ON THE COMMITTEE ON ARRANGEMENTS. WE’RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. OF COURSE, LEADING IN THE POLLS RIGHT NOW. YOU’VE EVEN MENTIONED THAT ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. IS THERE A SCENARIO WHERE THE RNC IS PLANNING FOR A BROKERED CONVENTION? DO YOU THINK THAT THAT’S A POSSIBILITY? YOU KNOW, THAT’S THAT’S WAY DOWN IN THE FUTURE. I THINK WE’LL KNOW WHO THE NOMINEE IS WHEN WHEN THEY COME TO MILWAUKEE. AND WE’RE EXCITED TO BE HERE IN MILWAUKEE, IN WISCONSIN. OBVIOUSLY, FOR THE CONVENTION. WE’RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT HAVING IT HERE. AND I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO NOMINATING JOE BIDEN’S REPLACEMENT HERE IN WISCONSIN AND GIVING PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING US RIGHT NOW THE RELIEF THAT THEY’VE BEEN BEGGING FOR. THEY UNFORTUNATELY GOT TAKEN IN. A LOT OF FOLKS BY THE BIDEN LIE IN THE ELECTION FOUR YEARS AGO. HE HASN’T BEEN FOR WORKING PEOPLE. THEY’RE ALL SUFFERING AND WILL HAVE THE WE’LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTRAST AGAINST JOE BIDEN RIGHT HERE A COUPLE OF MILES FROM HERE. AND CLEARLY, YOU SEE IN THE POLLING THAT YOU SEE ALL OVER THE STATE, WE HEAR IT AT THE DOORS, I HEAR IT AT CAUCUSES, I HEAR IT AT EVENTS I SPEAK AT ACROSS THE STATE SERVICE CLUBS. PEOPLE WANT THE ALTERNATIVE TO JOE BIDEN. YOU SEE IT IN EVERY LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE POLL OUT THERE. OKAY. ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATS AND THEY’RE NOMINATING IN CHICAGO NEXT SUMMER FOR MINNESOTA, REPRESENTATIVE DEAN PHILLIPS IS NOW ENTERED THE RACE. MARIANNE WILLIAMSON IS IS ALSO A CANDIDATE FOR THE DEMOCRATS. WHY WHY SHOULDN’T DEMOCRATS HAVE A PRIMARY? PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS WORKING EVERY DAY TO DELIVER FOR FOLKS AND DEMOCRATS HAVE PRESIDENT BIDEN’S BACK? DOES IT WORRY YOU THAT REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS HAS ENTERED THE RACE? AND WHAT THAT SHOWS ABOUT ENTHUSIASM IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY? I, I THINK REP PHILLIPS IS ENTITLED TO MAKE HIS OWN DECISIONS AS ANYBODY IS, BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT SOMEONE WHO PEOPLE MAYBE ARE LEARNING ABOUT FOR THE FIRST TIME AT THIS VERY MOMENT AS WE DISCUSS HIM, IS A IS A MAJOR FACTOR IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. A COUPLE OF OTHER QUICK THINGS AND YOU CAN BOTH JUMP IN HERE AS WE WRAP UP US SENATE RACE. HOW CLOSE DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS IS GOING TO BE AND WHEN IS A REPUBLICAN GOING. TO GET IN THE RACE? I THINK YOU’LL SEE A LITTLE MORE DEFINITE IDEA OF WHO WE’VE GOT A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES ALREADY. OF COURSE, GREAT CANDIDATES. I THINK YOU’LL SEE OTHER THINGS HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 30 OR 60 DAYS. POTENTIAL CANDIDATES. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, TAMMY BALDWIN IS VULNERABLE. SHE’S A 95% VOTE WITH JOE BIDEN, WHICH IN THIS STATE, AS WE’VE SEEN WITH EVERY SINGLE POLL, THAT IS NOT PARTICULARLY HELPFUL. EVERY TIME I HEAR SOME BUSINESS ABOUT, OH, I’M NOT SURE IF FOLKS CAN BEAT TAMMY BALDWIN, I SAY, HAVE YOU SEEN US, SENATOR RUSS FEINGOLD AROUND LATELY? BECAUSE RUSS FEINGOLD WAS IN BETTER SHAPE FROM POLLING PERSPECTIVE OF WHEN HE RAN BOTH TIMES THAN TAMMY BALDWIN IS RIGHT NOW. SO I HOPE THE DEMOCRATS ARE OVERCONFIDENT ABOUT TAMMY BALDWIN, BECAUSE THERE’S NOT A REASON TO BE. HOW DIFFICULT IS THIS CAMPAIGN GOING TO BE? TAMMY BALDWIN KNOWS YOU HAVE TO WORK IN EVERY CORNER OF WISCONSIN, SHOW UP FOR PEOPLE. SHE HAS A VOTING RECORD, AS YOU MENTIONED, HER VOTING RECORD, A VOTING RECORD OF DRIVING DOWN THE COST OF INSULIN FOR FOR SENIORS ON MEDICARE TO $35 BEING THE FOREMOST CHAMPION OF BUY AMERICA POLICIES IN THE US SENATE, ENSURING YEARS AGO THAT YOUNG PEOPLE COULD GET ON THEIR PARENTS HEALTH INSURANCE UNTIL AGE 26. THAT IS A VERY STRONG PACKAGE. AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS WISCONSIN. AND YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR’S SENATE ELECTION WAS A ONE PERCENTAGE POINT MARGIN MATTER. SO TAMMY BALDWIN AND ALL WHO SUPPORT HER ARE NOT TAKING THIS FOR GRANTED BY ANY MEANS, EVEN THOUGH THE MOST COMPELLING REPUBLICANS ALL SHIED AWAY FROM ACTUALLY CHALLENGING HER IN THIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN. WE COULD CONTINUE THIS FOR HOURS, BUT AT THIS POINT, WE WILL TAKE A PAUSE. WE HOPE YOU WILL COME BACK BEFORE ONE YEAR OUT. SO BRIAN CHIMIN, CHAIR OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF WISCONSIN. BEN WIKLER, DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF WISCONSIN. GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. UP NEXT, AN UNPRECEDENTED LOOK INSIDE FOXCONN. FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, OUR TOUR, THE TAX CREDITS ON THE LINE AND THE NEW INTERVIEWS ARE NEXT. THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF MYSTERY ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THIS